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Discussão venda de anime: BD, DVD e CD de música


Tópico em 'Discussões gerais' criado por martec em 14/07/2011, 21:56.
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 #3.001
(23/11/2013, 20:09)mirukage Escreveu: Do jeito que vcs falam vai ficar ruim mesmo. Haja praga. Icon_rolleyes Icon_lol
Tipo LB era mais fácil de adaptar e olha o que virou Icon_lolIcon_lol
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 #3.002
(23/11/2013, 20:10)chriss Escreveu: Tipo LB era mais fácil de adaptar e olha o que virou Icon_lolIcon_lol

Acho que não era não.

Pelo que me lembro, aqueles que jogaram sempre consideraram LB um dos mais difíceis.

Há quem diga que esse é um dos motivos (menor e menos importante) da Kyoto Animation não aceitar o projeto nas investidas iniciais.
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 #3.003
(23/11/2013, 20:18)mirukage Escreveu: Acho que não era não.

Pelo que me lembro, aqueles que jogaram sempre consideraram LB um dos mais difíceis.

Há quem diga que esse é um dos motivos (menor e menos importante) da Kyoto Animation não aceitar o projeto nas investidas iniciais.
LB perto de Rewrite é Fácil.
Em LB as rotas eram diferentes mas ainda sim não divergiam tanto quanto em Rewrite, sem contar que em Rewrite tem um Rota inteira de monologo e como Rewrite é muito mais sobre o Mundo do que as personagens fica difícil contar apenas um rota como fizeram em Fate, as pessoas não entenderiam nada quando fizessem as duas ultimas Rotas , sem contar que Fate existe uma divergência muito grande já no começo da VN, Rewrite não, Rewrite tem uma commun Route longa (maior que LB!) e praticamente a mesma para todos as Heroínas seria um Saco ver 5 vezes a mesma coisa.
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 #3.004
(23/11/2013, 20:18)mirukage Escreveu: Acho que não era não.

Pelo que me lembro, aqueles que jogaram sempre consideraram LB um dos mais difíceis.

Há quem diga que esse é um dos motivos (menor e menos importante) da Kyoto Animation não aceitar o projeto nas investidas iniciais.

LB é complicadinho, mas nem de longe é um dos mais difíceis de adaptar. Rewrite é umas 100 vezes mais.
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 #3.005
anime Rewrite só para quem gostou mesmo da obra...

pq para quem não gostou e anime for bem adaptado com montes de eps...
seria insuportável...
eu já não aguentava quando começava a falar dos problemas do mundo...
isso repetindo em quase todas as rotas... pior que na última rota (Terra) é mesma coisa...

já quem não jogou... bem não vai entender nada...
alías tem rotas que foge muito do plot principal que... bem deixa pra lá...
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 #3.006
Sobre vendas e números de anime foi finalmente publicado o FAQ mais completo. Vale a pena ler para quem se interessa. É constantemente atualizado.

http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=114252

Esta parte aqui que colarei é a que pouca gente sabe e é importante. A relação de produtores e estúdio.

Citar:2.1 What is a production committee?
A production committee is a group of companies that have pooled financial resources together to produce an animated show. The way these committees are formed are through producers. For example, if the Dengeki Bunko light novel division of Ascii Media Works (a Kadokawa Group company) wants to make an anime adaptation of one of their light novels, a producer that’s experienced in anime production will contact their colleagues mentioning “we’re planning to adapt this novel into anime form” and solicit feedback from other companies. They’ll decide on the form of the committee and then determine main staff/animation studio (if not part of the committee) once everyone is on board. The committee is ranked based off of financial input into the production; higher ranks=higher financial interests.


2.2 Why are production committees important? / When did they start?
In the early 2000s, anime started to shift from the film/OVA/TV station produced format to the committee format as TV stations began to produce their own live-action shows instead of anime. This meant that the financial brunt of the show was from these companies instead of on the TV stations. Instead of shows recouping costs by advertising money, the shows began advertising for other goods (novels, video discs, manga, music, merchandise, etc). This led to fandoms checking out numbers as best they could for any way to see how shows performed (and thus these threads). Revenue from video disc sales go to the distributor and then back to the committee to help offset these costs of productions.


2.3 Who is involved in production committees?
You’ll see a variety of companies in different committees. Publishers tend to either lead the committee (if they have a video distributing arm like Kadokawa/Media Factory) or place second to a video distributor. As mentioned, the video distributor tends to be highest on the list as they get the most income from video disc sales, but this isn’t always the case. Often you may see a TV station listed at the top like Fuji Television, TV Tokyo, NTV, or TBS. Music companies like Flying Dog, Lantis, and avex are also listed here. Finally you may see some advertising companies like Dentsu or Soutsu listed. Other companies also include video game manufactures, towns, and there’s even a theatre listed in one in 2013!

  2.3.1 Are animation studios involved in production committees?
  Studios have been parts of committees. In fact we had 4 studios in 2013 lead their respective committees (KyoAni, Sunrise, Toei, and Gonzo). If a studio isn't part of the committee, they're just contracted to do the animation work and get paid from that (I imagine they could get royalty payments if the show is exceptionally successful, but I can't say for sure). 

  As for how they're selected, that's part of the pre-production process where the producers use their connections at the respective studios to see who would have time or who they want to use. For example, Genco has TONS of works that's been animated by JC Staff, so they tend to put a lot of works there, but it's not always the case as they gave SAO to Aniplex/A-1 Pictures. If the studio wants to invest in the show, this is where that decision is made and they put a producer on the team as well.


2.4 How can I tell who’s involved in a show’s production committee? / Where are they found?
The simplest ones tell you in the opening/ending credits. At the final moments of those credits, you’ll see “製作” (Production). This is where your committee is listed. Nice shows list the members, but some hide them under a name. For those shows, we look at who’s listed as producers and start from there in order. (ie. Pony Canyon’s producer would be listed first if they were the top company for that show’s committee). It takes time and some producers are hard to identify.

I’ve made a long spreadsheet detailing who’s involved in the anime we track on this forum. Sheet 1 is a simple “Here’s your committee by show” while Sheet 2 breaks down the shows each company was involved in.
Access the spreadsheet here: 2013 Anime Production Committees


2.5 How are sequels determined?
There are many factors that go into deciding if a show will get a sequel. These relate to the original intention of the show. For example, if Kadokawa makes a series to promote a light novel title, and they feel there's still room for growth of the novels, a sequel can be greenlit. If the editorial board of the label feel the title has reached its peak and no additional seasons would raise enough additional sales of the novels, there's no reason to greenlight another season in favor of another title that would see growth of its sales. Aniplex and King Records are in charge of promoting their disc sales first and foremost, so titles led by them depend more on those than associated print material.

However, anime itself is not always merely a promotion. As noted in the spreadsheet, there are several series with a TV station at its helm. If they make an original show (or mostly original), then there may be additional seasons if ratings are high enough to justify the costs (eg. Log Horizon and Phi Brain being funded by NHK or Gatchaman Crowds from NTV). Thus the answer to "Is (blank) able to get a second season?" is nearly always "look at the committee and see if the first couple of companies got their investment back and see stabilization or growth possible with a second season."
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 #3.007
Venda Semanal de Mangás de 11/11/13 - /17/11/2013


01. Sakamoto Desuga? #2 (202,265)
02. One Piece #72 (175,147 / 2,354,005)
03. Hanakimi to Koisuru Watashi #7 (68,271)
04. Hajime no Ippo #105 (65,931)
05. Ane no Kekkon #6 (61,637 / 122,828)
06. Initial D #48 (59,526 / 179,421)
07. Kimi ni Todoke #20 (56,617 / 847,264)
08. Ajin #3 (55,992 / 133,675)
09. Monster Musume no iru Nichijou #4 (49,581)
10. Kantai Collection~Kankore~ Anthology Comic Yokosuka Chinjufu-hen #2 (48,909)

11. D.Gray-man #24 (48,425 / 380,365)
12. Mahou Shoujo Madoka☆Magika Shinhen Hangyaku no Monogatari #1 (48,291)
13. Amanchu! #7 (44,111 / 69,581)
14. Kimi no iru Machi #25 (39,807)
15. Atashinchi #19 (39,479 / 97,390)
16. Meitantei Conan #81 (37,210)
17. Baby Steps #28 (36,225)
18. Toriko #27 (33,180 / 304,079)
19. Koe no Katachi #1 (31,714)
20. 87 Clockers #4 (30,877 / 59,970)


21. Yumekui Merry #11 (27,818)
22. Youkai Apart no Yuuga na Nichijou #5 (27,702 / 53,912)
23. Vampire Knight #19 (26,889 / 94,837)
24. Ryuurouden Chuugen Ryouran-hen #13 (25,169)
25. Oboreru Knife #16 (23,898)
26. Manga de Wakaru Shinryou Naika #9 (23,302 / 23,477)
27. Hakaijuu #11 (22,243 / 42,528)
28. Nisekoi #9 (22,202 / 162,544)
29. Sakamoto Desuga? #1 (21,166 / 896,968)
30. Wagatsuma-san wa Ore no Yome #8 (20,601)

31. Noragami Shuuishuu Zero (20,571)
32. Sayonara Sorcier #2 (20,425 / 39,410)
33. Lucky☆Star #10 (20,105 / 58,679)
34. Magi #19 (20,005 / 513,282)
35. Ohku #10 (19,623 / 201,865)
36. Days #3 (18,760)
37. Beelzebub #24 (18,667 / 152,340)
38. Drop OG #7 (18,584 / 35,263)
39. Doubutsu no Kuni #13 (18,191 / 36,024)
40. Uchuu Kyoudai #22 (18,154 / 383,590)

41. Gin no Saji #9 (17,717 / 692,756)
42. Vagabond #36 (17,493 / 386,188)
43. Joshiraku #6 (17,276 / 36,443)
44. Kirara no Hoshi #10 (17,266)
45. Dear Brother! #3 (17,255 / 33,243)
46. Ishtar no Musume〜Onono Utsuu-den〜 #8 (16,992)
47. Omamori Himari #12 (16,981 / 41,545)
48. Kiss×Sis #12 (16,910 / 55,593)
49. I Am A Hero #13 (16,845 / 153,102)
50. Jojolion #5 (16,344 / 455,034)


Koe no Katachi só teve 3 dias de venda.
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 #3.008
Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for Nov 18 - Nov 24:  Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Blu-ray
*1. 24,352 24,352 Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.5
*2. *4,739 *4,739 Mobile Suit Gundam Wing Blu-ray Box Vol.1
*3. *2,641 *2,641 Ginga Kikoutai Majestic Prince Vol.6
*4. *1,964 *1,964 Karneval (TV) Vol.7
*5. *1,714 *1,714 Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG Blu-ray Disc Box Special Edition
*6. *1,521 *1,521 Rozen Maiden (2013) Vol.4
*7. *1,407 *1,407 Kimi no Iru Machi Vol.3
*8. *1,345 *1,345 Uchouten Kazoku Vol.3
*9. *1,200 *1,200 Devil Survivor 2 The Animation Vol.6
(cut-off 1,200)

DVD
*1. 9,874 *,**9,874 Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.5
*2. 1,627 *,**1,627 Kimi no Iru Machi Vol.3
*3. 1,154 1,223,464 Tonari no Totoro
*4. 1,106 *,**1,106 Karneval (TV) Vol.7
*5. *,988 *,***,988 Sore Ike! Anpanman: Tobase! Kibou no Handkerchief
*6. *,862 *,**4,733 Crayon Shin-chan Movie 21: Bakauma! B-Kyuu Gourmet Survival Battle!!
*7. *,805 *,***,805 Lupin III vs. Detective Conan
*8. *,679 *,***,679 Senyuu. Vol.4
*9. *,648 *,***,648 Devil Survivor 2 The Animation Vol.6
10. *,593 *,522,805 Majo no Takkyuubin
11. *,511 *,365,613 Mononoke Hime
12. *,499 *,***,499 Makai Ouji: Devils and Realist Vol.3
13. *,497 2,393,730 Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi
14. *,449 *,*65,094 One Piece Film Z
15. *,447 *,*13,118 Free! Vol.3
16. *,424 *,***,424 Cardfight!! Vanguard: Link Joker-hen Vol.6
17. *,407 *,***,407 Ginga Kikoutai Majestic Prince Vol.6
18. *,401 *,***,401 Hakkenden: Touhou Hakken Ibun Vol.9
(cut-off 401)

CD Single
*9. 20,702 *20,702 Toriko ED "Believe in Yourself!" by palet
16. *7,894 **7,894 Hanakappa ED "ROAD TO BUDOKAN 2013 ~Chiisana Kiseki~" by Tokyo Joshiryuu
22. *5,701 **5,701 Nagi no Asukara ED "Aqua Terrarium" by Nagi Yanagi
23. *4,893 **4,893 IS: Infinite Stratos 2 ED "Beautiful Sky" by Yoko Hikasa, Yukana, Asami Shimoda, Kana Hanazawa, Marina Inoue
26. *4,191 *50,388 Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 3: Hangyaku no Monogatari ED "Kimi no Gin no Niwa" by Kalafina
28. *3421 *3421 Gifuu Doudou!!: Kanetsugu to Keiji ED "Gensoukyoku Wonderland"
30. *3,326 **3,326 Hajime no Ippo: Rising ED "Buchikome!!" by Shikuramen
31. *3,311 *63,331 Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 3: Hangyaku no Monogatari Theme Song "Colorful" by ClariS
34. *2,846 *13,191 Kill la Kill OP "Sirius" by Eir Aoi
38. *2,725 *14,284 Golden Time OP "Golden Time" by Yui Horie
39. *2,583 109,740 Kakumeiki Valvrave 2nd Season OP "Kakumei Dualism" by Nana Mizuki x T.M.Revolution
40. *2,315 *13,990 Kuroko no Basket 2nd Season ED "WALK" by OLDCODEX
50. *1,781 *30,577 Ore no Nounai Sentakushi ga, Gakuen Love Comedy wo Zenryoku de Jama Shiteiru OP "S・M・L☆" by Afilia Saga
53. *1,733 *17,171 Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta OP "Sakura no Ato (all quartets lead to the ?)" by UNISON SQUARE GARDEN
55. *1,691 **1,691 Yowamushi Pedal OP "Reclimb" by ROOKiEZ is PUNK'D
57. *1,647 **1,647 Yowamushi Pedal ED "Kaze wo Yobe" by Under Graph
60. *1,591 **1,591 Galilei Donna ED "Innocent" by Earthmind
66. *1,484 *26,062 Magi: The Kingdom of Magic OP "ANNIVERSARY" by SID
68. *1,451 *11,506 Tokyo Ravens OP X-encounter by Maon Kurosaki
71. *1,368 *50,888 Log Horizon OP "database feat. Takuma(10-Feet)" by MAN WITH A MISSION
73. *1,328 *16,712 Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova OP "Savior of Song" by Nano feat. MY FIRST STORY
77. *1,232 **8,500 IS: Infinite Stratos 2 OP "True Blue Traveler" by Minami Kuribayashi
78. *1,211 **8,887 Samurai Flamenco OP "Just One Life" by SPYAIR
81. *1,144 **5,576 Galilei Donna OP "Synchromanica" by Negoto
83. *1136 *1136 "Koroshiya-san: The Hired Gun OP "the end"
84. *1,044 *15,517 Kyoukai no Kanata OP "Kyoukai no Kanata" by Minori Chihara
85. *1,033 **8,470 Machine-Doll wa Kizutsukanai OP "Anicca" by Hitomi Harada
(cut-off 1,000)

CD Album
*6. 22,254 22,254 Yukari Tamura Rasen no Kajitsu
*9. 14,710 14,710 The iDOLM@STER 765Pro AllStars+ Gre@test Best! -Cool & Bitter!-
19. *5,596 *5,596 KOTOKO Kuuchuu Puzzle
38. *2,559 *2,559 Pretty Rhythm: Rainbow Live Prism ☆Solo Collection by Kouji & Hiro & Kazuki (Tatsuya Kakihara, Tomoaki Maeno, and Toshiki Masuda)
40. *2,365 *2,365 Strike Witches the Movie Hime-Uta Collection 5 (Lynette, Perrine)
66. *1,480 *1,480 Kaguya-hime no Monogatari Ghibli to Watashi to Kaguyahime

Source: Oricon Youtaiju
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 #3.009
Sakamoto Desu ka? vende tanto assim? Icon_eek
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 #3.010
(26/11/2013, 13:40)Jessi Escreveu: Sakamoto Desu ka? vende tanto assim? Icon_eek

Qual o problema, não conheço a obra mas realmente vende muito para um manga que pelo números de volumes é novo Icon_lolIcon_lol
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